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I have an HGTV addiction. If you visit Mt. Oly even once in a while, you know that already. You also know that I don’t like to cook. But even though I don’t like to cook, I have a list of what my ideal kitchen, the best looking and best functioning kitchen, needs to have. I mention HGTV because, as much as I love that channel and those shows, they get the kitchens wrong a lot of the time. At least, they get my kitchen wrong.
My list of must-haves:
Double ovens. And here’s where they get it wrong most times—I want the oven to be out of the traffic flow of the kitchen so that no one accidentally runs into the open hot door, and there MUST be counter space next to the oven to put the scalding hot, heavy turkey/chicken/ham on. I do not want to carry that dripping, greasy pan for more than 6 inches.
A regular gas stove top, non-commercial/restaurant grade. I am not running a restaurant. I do not have a catering business. I am, at most, boiling water for pasta and stirring spaghetti sauce on two separate burners at the same time. I don’t need 8 burners. And I really don’t want to clean 8 burners. And I really, really don’t want to pay for a costly restaurant stove just to impress the one neighbor who brings me my wrongly delivered mail once a decade.
A place for the deep freeze. If I’m paying to have a totally new kitchen (HGTV, are you listening?) I want the freezer to be in or adjacent to the kitchen! I don’t want it in the garage or the basement. This is where I store lots of food. I want it handy.
Unobtrusive lighting. I don’t want cutesy pendant lights over my island or over my sink. I don’t want to bang my head into the darling, expensive, artsy light fixture, and I don’t want to have to clean the grease and grime off of it. This is a kitchen, not a coffee bar. (On one recent HGTV show, a light fixture of glass links was shown actually touching the top of the table—another inventive way to ignore annoying dinner guests.)
A place to plug/store the electronics. There’s no use pretending that the kitchen isn’t the heart of the home, and HGTV is very big on acknowledging this, but they seem to routinely ignore the ugly reality that, since this is the room with the fridge, this is going to be the room with the cords for the cell phone, computer, digital camera, iPod, etc. Just give me a dedicated zone for the electronic technology in my life, someplace away from the toaster.
A broom closet. An old-fashioned broom closet. That tiny closet in the kitchen where the broom, the Swiffer floor mop, the vacuum cleaner and the dust pan is stored. Whatever happened to the lowly broom closet? Pantries, the HGTV world is awash in pantries. I love pantries, but I also love broom closets. Without a broom closet, the hall closet gets taken over by the vacuum cleaner.
I could go on and on, but now it’s your turn. What do you need for a kitchen to be great?
First of all, I hate pantries, or at least I hate MY pantry. It is in the corner of my kitchen with one of those catawampus doors that takes up too much room for no apparent reason. For me the perfect kitchen would have a wall of floor to ceiling cabinets instead of a pantry. I want deep drawers for my pots & pans. I want the dishwasher to be the drawer variety also so I can do small loads instead of waiting until the blasted thing is full enough to run. I want an industrial size fridge,I have teenagers with many friends (read locusts). Like you I want many outlets along with different work stations and my coffee station away from the flow of traffic. I want the dining area to be near enough to get the food to the table hot but not impede getting around. And it has to be big enough to seat at least 12 people at any given moment. And I want the double ovens also. Years ago my dh bought me an O’Keefe & Merritt stove with a double oven, I loved that stove and hated to leave it when I moved but the new place was electric and it was gas.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:31 am.
I adore all things gas. I have a gas stove top, but I’d love a gas oven to add to that. Gas is so predictable.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:50 am.
Gas really is easier to regulate but for the past several years any kitchen I have had is electric. Life isn’t fair is it?
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:58 am.
I have a pantry I despise. When I recently moved the washer and dryer out of the kitchen (long story), I used the area to put up a set of metal shelves and put all the food on it. I can now see everything (except what’s in the over flow in the basement) and am loving to cook!! The old pantry with the locked in shelves (so you have no idea what you have) is now housing the bake ware, plastic storage containers and bags/wraps. It’s so nice and organized!!!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:56 am.
For me I must have a French door fridge, a chest freezer, a kitchen window with a double sink underneath it since I like to look out the window when I am doing the dishes. I also wouldn’t mind a dishwasher, a kitchen island that is able to store things, a walk in pantry with enough space for my cookbooks and it would be completely blue. There would also be a spot specifically for Acheron to eat to eat his meals along with a drinks fridge.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:32 am.
I can’t stand it when the sink isn’t under a window. I feel trapped otherwise.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:51 am.
I love HGTV also, but honestly some of those huge houses and only three bedrooms??
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:32 am.
Or a huge house and no dining room? Are you kidding me?
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:52 am.
But they have a closet that would house a family of eight and have room for the dog. Not that I am knocking huge closets but who would give up a dining room for those special times a breakfast bar just won’t cut it?
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:03 pm.
Someone else to clean it. But this is a fantasy, not a reality… And a kickin’ water filtration system. Oh, and I would like to time-travel back to 1986 to the factory that made my refrigerator to tell them about planned obsolescence. That way my husband would buy me a new refrigerator every 6 to 8 years, rather than making me stick my current rusting one that has no ice-maker. Not that he will permit an ice maker (“too noisy”). But I suspect, what with all the new-fangled technology (post 1986), they might just be making quieter ice-makers nowadays. And no, I can’t make my own ice because it always tastes like the ice cube tray. Friends advise me to simply purchase a refrigerator and have it delivered. I’m thinking about it…
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:37 am.
Automatic ice is pretty nice.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:52 am.
9/13/01-hubby was shipped to NYC to deal with the disaster. I was up here, on duty. We had been discussing buying a new one before hand. Somehow, on the 14th, ours died and I had to go buy a new one immediately. Yeah, it was bad, but I know my husband and we would still have it.
I recently replaced the one that I had bought because the plastic things that hold the drawers kept breaking and I got tired of replacing them. But this time, I bought the new one. LOL
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:59 am.
Well I did recently break one of the shelves in the door, accidentally. No, really, it wasn’t on purpose!
I hope your new fridge brings you much joy and no pesky repairs!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:48 pm.
More room. My kitchen is very small. Not much cabinet or counter space. Also more electrical plugs. Maybe I just say a whole new kitchen although I would keep my french door refrigerator.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:59 am.
There can never be too much counter space. Or cupboards.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:53 am.
What do you need for a kitchen to be great?
FOOD. It’s that simple, really
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 3:20 am.
hahaha! yeah that works too!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:16 am.
But of course!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:53 am.
I so miss my double ovens. If and when I redo, those are a must! I try to avoid HGTV; if it’s on and I sit down, the day’s a bust. Walk-in pantry is a must. If it’s big enough to have a wee broom closet, all the better. If not, I need such a space. With shelves. I don’t cook like I used to, but I still have 20qt pots. They need space. There is only so much nesting a person can do. Drawers for pot lids. Hate having them slithering around in the cabinets. Drawers deep enough for foil, sandwich and storage bags, wax paper, etc. Lots of drawers near the cooking area for tools. I enjoy cooking, and although most of my cooking these days is for holiday meals, that’s when I need the most space! Appliance storage. Be it a garage or carousel, they have to be out of sight. Hate the clutter, need the coffee pot and toaster.
I’m stopping now. The kitchen is the heart of the home, as you say, but to win my heart, it must be a baker’s paradise, so my list has a way to go.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 3:21 am.
I am the same way. That channel has voodoo power over me.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:54 am.
Wow, you covered most of it. B’s answer was good too. For me, I need ample drawers and cupboards. I moved from a house where I had too many (I even had one drawer dedicated solely to tea!), to a house with not nearly enough. One final thing that would make my kitchen great would be a personal chef! Have an awesome weekend!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 6:50 am.
Hey, I have one drawer dedicated to tea! And it’s not even my drawer since I don’t drink tea. LOL There is no such thing as too many drawers and cupboards, or counter space, or fridge space, or pantry space.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:55 am.
Need a bigger Kitchen with a pantry and a broom closet and someone else to clean it.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:11 am.
I have a broom closet and I don’t know how I lived without it. And I made the architect add it! She also had the oven on a wall by itself, not a counter in sight, next to the door outside. I could just imagine a kid running 100MPH and slamming into that open oven door. I redid her entire kitchen design. She was not pleased.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:57 am.
Like my folks used to say, she could get glad in the same pants she got mad in (never understood that saying until I had kids). Your money, your house, your decision; simple really. Did this architect ever really use a kitchen or did she just design them? Until we made some changes in ours it was a one butt kitchen with two or more butts trying to function in it. Now when we go out looking at houses we do what we call the Kitchen Ballet; we waltz around the fridge,sink, oven, dishwasher , and cupboard. If we can get around without running into someone, the house may make the short list.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:14 pm.
We use the second oven as baking pan storage. I’m partial to islands and gas stove tops. And counter space for my kitchenaid mixer.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:17 am.
Those mixers take up room, don’t they? But they’re so handy.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:58 am.
I got my sister one of those for Christmas because her last one died years ago. Then I found something at Costco that I really love. It is a hand-held blender, whisk, chopper, mixer by Kitchenaid. so when I just have a small amount of stuff to deal with I use this instead and then I pop the attachments into the dishwasher. One of the best $20 investments I have made in a while.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:27 pm.
It doesn’t have to be large kitchen for me as long as it’s well laid out. I need plenty of counter space. Many electrical outlets. Double ovens would be great. Drawers for pots and pans would be great. Drawers for dishwashers would be great so that I don’t have to run a full dishwasher. My mom has a french door fridge with the drawer on the bottom and I love it. Yes, please bring back the broom closet. I can make do without a pantry but a broom closet would be great. I do need an island because people always migrate to the kitchen. Gas stove. I don’t need stainless steel appliances but they do need to look nice. So yes, I need the pretty pendant lights and don’t rule out a rocking chandelier even if I have to clean them myself.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:34 am.
It’s all about the layout for me as well. Space well planned can be a workhorse. Big space poorly planned is a nightmare to function in.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:59 am.
A FROS-like man making my meals and bringing me snacks – real or euphemistic snacks, take your pick.
That would be the perfect kitchen
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:00 am.
Do you think that we could clone Hugh Jackman to cook and clean for us? Preferably in only an apron that sort of looks like something from the 1950s. I could get behind hi . . . that I meant that *cough*
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:26 am.
I’ve got that! LOL I’m one lucky woman, and I know it.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:02 am.
The biggest thing for me is cupboard space. I have a lot of cupboards now, but they are small and some of them are really quite useless. I would love a walk in pantry. In my world it would be big enough for a freezer, so I wouldn’t have to run down to the basement. I am with you on the broom closet. My mom has one and I am always telling her that I envy it. Under the counter lighting for me is also a must, as well as pot lights instead of fancy hanging lights. I would also like a door on my kitchen. That way the mess would be concealed. I like the open concept houses, but sometimes I would love to just shut the door on my mess, especially if people just stop by.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:19 am.
Exactly. What happens in the kitchen really isn’t a spectator sport.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:03 am.
Storage is a biggie. Right now I’ve got stuff in places it doesn’t belong because there is no place for it TO belong. The vacuum cleaner usually gets left in the last room vacuumed. No broom closets. The brooms are in the basement or the garage.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:42 am.
Broom. Closet.
Maybe we could form some sort of revolt to bring broom closets back?
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:04 am.
While I do not cook, I would want a gas stove, a dishwasher and no island. If there is sufficient counter space, an island is just a waste of floor space.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:46 am.
Some of the HGTV islands are so big there is no way you can wipe them down!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:05 am.
I’ve always thought maybe they should plant a tree for shade on one of those islands they are so big. What we have as an island right now is a movable cabinet with a butcher-block top. We store mixing bowls and tall appliances in it. It is placed for putting the hot stuff from the oven on or the dishes from the dishwasher when they are on the way to the cupboard. And when we need more space we just move it elsewhere.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:11 pm.
Having worked in a multiude ofhomes with a multiude of different appliances and layouts, I know what works and what doesn’t.
MY kitchen will have:
An all fridge fridge and an all freezer freezer.
both upright and side by side.
AND the fridge will have a clear glass front so no one has to keep opening the door to peek inside. yes I know it means the darn thing’s insides will have to be neat and clean, but I can live with that.
my stovetop’s elements will be solid. Do not want glasstop invection heating. it is a nightmare to get a pot of water boiling on those suckers. heat up and cool down and repeat many times. arghghghgh!
I’ve only seen one solid coil element stovetop and have yet to see again but boy oh boy it is heaven to cook on!. no spills dripping down through to the metal bucket thingy underneath to catch fire later on. the heat stays where you set it! the only downside is that little fingers do not belong anywhere near this stove while it cools down. that part takes a long time.
A large, stainless steel topped kitchen island that has been wired for appliances that can be well hidden in lower cupboards.And shelves for cookbooks on the “facing the company” side
a pantry is a must and it can’t be a dinky narrow hallway type. bright and open, wide shelving and big enough to store brooms, mops & bucket and a stick vacuum for easy clean up. I want to walk in and be able to move around.
NO breakfast bar! Do not expect me to perch on a stool so high I need a ladder to get on, and so teeny only one butt cheek fits. nuh uh. A nice big country table that you can sit and prep/eat food and actually talk to people is good. a la the Waltons. for all meals. no fancy dining room for this family chick.
Ovens. plural.I like the new oven options- large and small combos. My sis has a slow cooker/roaster just for turkeys.It works great and since we put it on the porch to cook, the kitchen temp doesn’t rise to tropical so that you need shorts and a tank to mash potatoes.
and pies don’t need a huge space to cook in. neither do sheets of cookies. you got it. desserts are key cooking for me!
I’m sure I have more wants/needs, but my mind is blank and I need my second cup of mocha
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:10 am.
I love those slow cook turkey roasters. They are so handy.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:36 am.
I don’t need one since I’m not the family host house, but they are pretty great. Although this past Christmas she went to check on it in the basement and it wasn’t on, so we had to delay dinner for 4 hrs. we we’re STARVING by then!
lol
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:56 am.
That happened here at Christmas, someone turned the temp down on my roaster and slowed the cooking time for the bird waaaaaay down. See my unhappy mommy-face? I really like my roaster though because I can even bake in it, I haven’t tried yet but I will soon. And it came with buffet pans so I can cook other things when it is not burning a bird.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm.
You should be on HGTV as a consultant. You’d save homeowners hours of agony!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:06 am.
why thank you! It helps that I LIKE to cook and don’t mind taking over someone else’s kitchen. and the fact that “mom” lets me take over her kitchen!lol
one mom lurves it cause I still go over and bake and rearranges/reorganizes her cupboards. seriously lucky in bosses!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 4:31 pm.
I love mine and we use it every year for the same reason. So much easier and so much quicker!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:03 pm.
I have the greatest kitchen ever, compliments of DH. We’re in the remodeling industry. DH is a cabinet guy, his profession, but knows about plumbing, electrical, and all the other stuff that goes into making the kitchen great. While he isn’t insured to working plumbing or electrical on anyone else’s house, he does it for our own. It took us 2 years to design the kitchen. DH stands 6’5″. I’m 5’2″ on a good day. So, instead of having all kinds of cabinets high on a wall, he managed to have everything lower for me in drawers. I only have 4 cabinets on the wall. The best thing about the remodel, is that DH went “dumpster diving” for the materials. He knew of a shop going out of business, and hauled off all of there sheet stock to build the cabinets. If you look at the drawers, no they don’t match on the insides. The bulk of the outside cabinets are out of African wenge wood. He found that at a different auction in a pile with a whole bunch of junk, and ended up buying the whole pile for $5. The countertops are Corian. They came from a house where someone was upgrading and there was enough there to repurpose to our cabinets. The backsplash is some sort of marble. Again, this stuff was destined for the trash, as it was rejected from a different project.
As for the electrical, DH put in what he calls “plug mold”. This is basically a strip of nothing but outlets for all of my kitchen and other gadgets. We put the pendant lights in the dining room, and I wish we didn’t. They’re dust collectors, and well, we’ve been though a couple of tables looking for the perfect one, so their placement has been an issue a couple of times. But they look cool.
The only thing I don’t really have is a working pantry, and the freezer is in the garage. I have two other ovens in the garage as well, but it is close enough to the kitchen that it doesn’t bug me, and when I have everything running, it works out wonderfully. But really, with the space DH had to work with and what it is today is totally amazing.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:29 am.
Your husband and Big D sound like twins separated at birth! What a great job he did on your kitchen!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:08 am.
A personal chef whom I never see. Like shoe store elves, my chef would sneak in while I was sleeping and leave me with a surprise every morning.
Plus a really big fridge.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:32 am.
Speaking of big fridges, on HGTV yesterday, the cabinets around the oven came in too small, so they had to downsize the oven!! I was like, NO! CUT THE CABINETS!! Who wants a smaller appliance?
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:09 am.
A smaller oven?! What will they do at Thanksgiving???
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:13 pm.
Well, I have them – although installed by previous owner… rollout drawers instead of just shelves in lower cabinets.. But I HATE this darn side-by-side fridge.. First, it’s placed wrong so that the freezer door doesn’t open all the way [and I can't really change it's placement]. Would love a french door fridge – but there’s the same issue with those.. I just hate the skinny shelves that are inherent with SBS fridges.. I sorta have a pantry [same previous owners] put in fixed wire shelving.. the kind that has the inch hanging down lip.. So tall items have to be kind of tipped under the overhang… if they will fit…. I would love to win a remodel… move fridge & it’s waterline… have gas stove, redo the pantry, the peel & stick floor.. install new dishwasher..
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 9:39 am.
I have the pull out drawers and I adore them. I also have the swivel thingy in the corner cabinets. Love the ease of those.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:10 am.
A pantry! I grew up with a small room off the kitchen where there were open shelves – very easy to see what you have, and cupboards underneath for storing pots and pans and baking dishes. My new house has cabinets – dark little holes where it looks nice but isn’t all that functional.
Oh! And counter space – lots and lots and lots of counter space so when you are baking multiple batches of cookies that you have plenty of space to line up all those cookie sheets.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:10 am.
There is NEVER enough counter space, but I’m partly responsible for that. The mail takes up a lot.
Hmm, must get to the mail one of these days…
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:11 am.
Claudia, that’s what wicker baskets are for. Throw the mail in there and just move it when need be, that way you can put off dealing a lot longer.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm.
I pretty much have my dream kitchen as we designed it ourselves. I have cathedral ceilings and my cabinets go pretty high. Granted I need a ladder to get stuff, but that’s where I store all my holiday and entertainment stuff. I also made a little desk area for a computer and a charging station.
There are only two things that I didn’t get, one due to space. I would have loved a full size freezer and a full refrigerator. It looks like a side by side only bigger. I think Sub Zero makes it. The other was a foot petal that turns on the water to the sink so when your hands are dirty, you don’t have to touch anything. Now I see they have faucets with sensors that I just may have to get. Oh, and a wine refrigeration would have been nice.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:11 am.
Oooh, the foot pedal thingy would have been great! I wonder if those can be retro-fitted? I’d also love a wine fridge, but they are so expensive! And they take up valuable cupboard space.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:12 am.
Yes, a foot pedal! That would be so handy. (Wait, that doesn’t sound right.)
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:14 pm.
After I wrote and loaded this blog, I was watching Kitchen Cousins on HGTV and they “improved” a kitchen by removing the doorway from the kitchen to the dining room. “They never use the dining room anyway.”
Well, yeah, especially now that there’s no passageway from the kitchen to the dining room.
Things like this, kitchen “planning” like this, give me brain freeze.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:12 am.
Your kitchen design sounds great, Claudia! I hadn’t thought of a broom closet, but yes, bring them back. I like my kitchen, but I wish I had an island, pull out shelves, and a window. The kitchen is in the center of the house, I miss windows in there. My pantry is a combination laundry room, broom closet and shelves. We are in the process of planning a redesign in there adding floor to ceiling cabinets to replace the white wire shelves.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:17 am.
I have a friend with the same kitchen placement dilemma. I always feel trapped when I’m in her kitchen—no window.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:13 am.
this is my obsession right now. I have new appliances. Now I want to refinish the cabinets and remove a half wall that separates the dining area from the living area. I also want no obtrusive lighting. But NICE lighting. I like pretty chandeliers.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:22 am.
For your own good, stay away from HGTV! You’ll be ripping out walls and staring at drywall dust in no time.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:14 am.
I love to cook but don’t need fancy expensive things to cook with. My Jenn-Air range has four gas burners and the oven is electric. Perfect for my needs. Otherwise I need my KitchenAid and a microwave. My special music system lets me dance around the kitchen while I am cooking – fun and calorie burning!
I do love handheld gadgets though. A microplaner, garlic press, very sharp knives etc. make cooking a joy. Having a husband who loves to cook with me makes it all the better.
Anything extra I need to clean is not high on my list!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:27 am.
Broom. Closet. Just imagine how perfect your kitchen would be with a broom closet.
I think we need to from a coalition.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:15 am.
Broom. Closet. Keeping all the cleaning thingies in one place would be lovely. I will join that coalition!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:59 pm.
Sign me up! We have the great American broom & vacuum hunt all the time because there is nor permanent place for either. My sister has been talking about getting one of those Sauder wardrobes just for that purpose.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:43 pm.
Your list plus a chef
I love things hidden, drawers, trash compactor, etc. Space is my favorite and having room, even if it is extra room. Must have a place for cleaning supplies and extra party supplies. I wish kitchens came with all to use in it, pots, pans, blenders and the like.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:45 am.
Great idea! There might be a business in this.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:25 am.
Gosh, you guys all have such GREAT ideas! I loved my kitchen when we bought the house but man I hate it now. Living in Florida, we don’t have a lot of storage to begin with but we don’t even have a coat closet let alone a broom closet! My vac is usually left in whatever room I just finished or if I remember to put it away, it is in my bathroom linen closet. My DH bought a thing that hangs on the wall in my laundry room for my swiffer, brooms etc to snap onto so they hang on the wall.
I have a galley type kitchen that is SO dark. NEED to repaint it since I chose the dark color to begin with. I have a side by side fridge that I wish I’d spent the extra money and gotten the one like what Julia just got. Hers is SO pretty! I have electric cooking which I hate but again, Florida so I am stuck with it. I’d love to have pull out drawers and an island. My eating area is HUGE so if I could move the kitchen over there and put the eating area in the middle, I think I’d like it better. There are HUGE windows and my sliding door in the eating area so TONS of light. Kitchen proper is a dark hole!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:56 am.
What a great idea! It would be expensive and messy, but moving thing around would solve your problems.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:20 am.
We were just talking about this very issue last night! I just bought my first home in the last year, and the kitchen is a huge disaster. It will probably be the first major overhaul I do in this home (when I say that I mean in like 5 years when I’m not feeling like a broke college student again!).
Must haves:
–I’m with you on easy access to the deep freeze!
–Short person cabinets….I am not very tall therefore I do not need the majority of my cabinets to touch the top of a 10 ft ceiling (I think the air is thinner up there!)
–Hidden garbage can; I hate having mine out for the world to see
–Gas stove
–Surfaces that are all functional and wipeable. I think tile and grout look nice in magazines, but have no place in my kitchen. This also applies to walls and light fixtures
–The stove, fridge and sink need to be close together. Running from one end of the kitchen to the other with a pot of boiling water is not awesome.
–Eat in kitchen–I’m a simple person. If I have to carry the entire meal to a different room it just seems like more effort.
5 years. I’ll start the count down this afternoon.
HAPPY FRIDAY!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 10:56 am.
Make a list of everyone’s brilliant ideas today and you’ll be ready to go in 5 years! Or you could watch HGTV and see some things NOT to do.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:21 am.
growing up, we had a swinging door from the kitchen to the dining room-much like a restaurant it was awesome when we had to carry food or dishes back and forth!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:01 am.
My grandmother had that! I loved that. I almost got one here, but Big D vetoed it. It does take up space.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:22 am.
I like pantries. They don’t have to be extra rooms–that would be clumsy, I think. But in my kitchen I have what is just a small closet that serves as a pantry and I think it is very convenient. It gets all the food products out of my cupboards. Also must have are lots of electrical outlets spaced around the counters, and on the side of the island and peninsula. Then, a fierce exhaust fan is important. Finally, I have to have a window in the working part of the kitchen.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:02 am.
Exhaust fans. Not enough is said about the importance of an exhaust fan. I know mine isn’t powerful enough because the cupboards above my stove top are always greasy.
Ewwww.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:23 am.
and if someone can invent a dishwasher that has a side opening door AND is at countertop height?
that would be great!
nothing worse for a perpetually bad back than having to stoop to load and unload one.
Restaurants’ dishwashers would do it. places dishes on rack, slid into dishwasher unit. close lid. 5 minutes later.. done! I got spoiled when working as a baker and got to use one for washing up. heaven! and SO clean! but really expensive to install in the average home. I looked it up. sigh
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:07 am.
You know what’s happened to me? I’ve started washing dishes by hand again. If it’s just a few things, it’s quicker and easier than the whole dishwasher hassle.
I feel like a pioneer.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:24 am.
I did not have a dishwasher the whole time I lived in LA.. so even with a dishwasher here at the Geezer Chateau, I tend to hand wash a lot of them still.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:47 am.
First of all, I’d take the kitchen in the first picture in a hot second.
Second, I’m so with you on the broom closet. It’s so annoying that they no longer exist.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:27 am.
LOL Yes, it’s pretty, but there’s no counter next to the oven, so it’s a Bad Kitchen for me. Where do I put the cookie sheet? Where does the broiler pan dripping with meat juice go? Just one counter. Give me one, clear counter next to the oven.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:46 am.
All of what you mentioned along with- a sink that isn’t some tiny little thing with a slightly larger one on the wrong side of where I wash and rinse. It needs to hold big stuff. Not everything goes in the dishwasher.
I am an HGTV junkie too (or DIY, esp Mike Holmes) and have been buying new appliances, moving things and doing what my budget allows. I am thinking of redoing the upper cupboards but replacing the lower ones- different use, different formation. So far, new LG French door fridge with 2 freezer drawers. Washer and dryer which have been moved out of the kitchen for the first time in 50 years and used part of our overly large diningroom to build a closet which now houses them and the extra appliances I don’t use on a daily basis. Wok, anyone? Next up, new freezer, self-defrosting, and bigger.
My daughter is in a apt where the previous tenant redid the entire place. When he did the kitchen, the sink area was raised about 6″ higher than normal and WOW! what a difference. No matter how short I am or how tall she and my husband are, it is so much easier to do dishes. No bending or stooping. I have already talked to my guy who does stuff that I want to do it and he likes the idea too.
Since it’s only the two of us, I am replacing the dishwasher with two dish drawers. Smaller loads and when needed I can do pots and pans in one and china in the other.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:51 am.
And I have started buying the tile I want for the backsplash, a sheet at a time.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:53 am.
I think the small dishwasher is a great idea. My dishwasher is standard and always full at the end of the day, but I can see that a small one would be handy.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:32 pm.
We have a 2 drawer dishwasher, and I can tell you that you really don’t want one. They don’t clean as well as other dishwashers. Frequently, we end up washing the dishes that have been in the dishwasher, by hand. I’d get rid of it in a minute if there was another dishwasher that fit in our space. It’s the first thing that’s going when we remodel the kitchen.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:21 pm.
Wow! This is the first I’ve heard of this. Thank you for passing that tidbit on. I’m scratching that off my list.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:34 pm.
You’re welcome. Everyone I know who has ever had them, absolutely hate them.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:00 pm.
I miss my gas stove. Now, it took me a while to get used to it (I grew up with electric) but then I had a gas stove (1963 pink, thank you) and really got spoiled. I did learn at the studio that the commercial named (very few that are called commercial really are – those are at restaurant supplies, not Best Buy. heh) is the BTUs of the burners.. We had pots going and because the original stove was a basic one, we couldn’t get more than 1 burner to really get going. So I made bossman upgrade.
I also want the sink fairly close to the stove. Geezer’s old house had a pretty to look at kitchen that seemed to be “perfect” but I would have to carry a boiling pot of pasta all the way across the kitchen and around the island to drain the pasta. Then bring the whole thing back to the stove. dumb design.
I also really want my pots and pans hanging up from a pretty metal rack. I especially love that when my hands are a mess and I just need one pan. Rather than have to wash my hands in order not to contaminate the rest in the cabinet or drawer, I can just grab the one I need and get going.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:54 am.
I am such a gas stove person. I had a realtor tell me once that electric sells better in a home. I think he made that up. I’ve never met a woman who didn’t love gas, once she’d used it anyway.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:33 pm.
Interesting that this is your topic, given that I’m doing a pseudo-kitchen overall. Pseudo, because I’m not ripping out the whole thing and doing it anew, but it WILL be drastically different–paint instead of the icky wallpaper that was there, granite countertops, tile floors, redone cabinets (but not new ones–we have good wood cabinets, but the finish on them is yellow, so we’re painting them and doing a chocolate glaze finish), a new stove, one new fixture, and new sinks.
Here’s what *I* don’t get about what people love in new kitchens–stainless steel appliances. Seriously? Do they clean them every minute? One fingerprint and they look dirty.
We are NOT good with the cleaning thing, and I have an autistic son who would no more be able to avoid touching the nice shiny doors than a two-year-old. No stainless steel for me. And since I have a one-year old refrigerator that I love in white finish, I’m NOT buying a new one. So, I guess I will be the one person with white appliances. Sue me. I can keep white appliances clean way better, go figure.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:57 am.
I have white appliances and I wouldn’t change them for stainless steel. Kids and stainless steel do not mix.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:14 pm.
I’m not a fan of stainless appliances either. The only thing that matters to me is whether the appliance matches the overall decor/color scheme. Sometimes that’s stainless and sometimes it’s not!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:34 pm.
Two years ago, we redid our kitchen, on a budget. Took down the old cabinets, refinished them, rearranged them, bought 2 lower cabinets and 1 upper cabinet. New sink, countertop and backsplash. New white appliances, my style is more country, and I didn’t like black or stainless.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:10 pm.
Doble oven – a must – I so want to have a holiday dinner done at the same time. A wine fridge – no explanation necessary. Whisper close cabinets; cabinet for pots and pans that I don’t have to risk life and limb to get to the pot I need. Really need to go on Pinterest to get all my dreams down so someday I will have them handy when I win the lotter
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:00 pm.
Oh, yeah, love the whisper close cabinets.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:35 pm.
I love – and have – a double oven, but I really wish it had french doors like my refrigerator. I have seen pictures of old double ovens with them, and some kitchens in Europe seem to have them, so I know they are out there. It just seems so dangerous to have to lean so far over the oven door when you are taking out hot pans. With french doors, you could get right up to the oven without leaning over.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:13 pm.
Ovens scare me. There is so much heat involved. Accidents always seem imminent.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:36 pm.
Back in 1981, my ex and I built a house from scratch and I designed the kitchen. Like a kid in a candy store, I went crazy for me at the time. There was plenty of counter space, an indoor grill, gas cook tops, a SBS refrigerator/freezer (which was sufficient for our needs), a double oven, double sinks, dishwasher and a middle island with skylights above. It had an extra high ceiling because the great room/dining room combination through the connecting door had a vaulted ceiling that slanted in that direction. There were suspended globe lights with plenty of head room. We had an extra large pantry and a separate utility room close by that served as a broom closet. The kitchen was BRIGHT YELLOW, stainless steel, and white. Everyone told me I’d get tired of the color scheme, but I never did nor did they. I still love that kitchen.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:25 pm.
Some kitchens live on in memory as perfect, don’t they? For me, kitchens that I love to look at can be ick to function in and visa versa. My first house had a small U-shaped kitchen. I bought the house in spite of the kitchen. Little did I know that it functioned like a dream. It’s still my favorite kitchen.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:38 pm.
Claudia, I have a fairly new kitchen but I made a couple mistakes. Mistake #1 marble tile countertops. The man at the store said if we sealed the marble, it wouldn’t absorb anything. He lied. I cut a tomatoe the first month we had the countertops and ruined the finish. I would definitely go with granite if I re-do.
Mistake #2 No broom closet. I am in total agreement with your post regarding this matter.
Mistake #3 Ceramic tile floors. Although they are easy to keep clean and look beautiful, they are freezing cold in our NY winters and hard on my ankles. I wish I had gone with hard wood flooring.
One difference I have from yours is that I have an electric stove and love it. My reason is that it is a flat top and verrrry easy to clean.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:33 pm.
I find standing on the ceramic tile hard on my back. It is also very hard to keep the grout clean if it isn’t sealed. My 2 year old decided to use a pencil crayon to colour my grout and it was so hard to get off.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:28 pm.
I know that WD40 takes off crayon (2 artists in residence here). Maybe it’d work on grout, too. It’s really slippery afterwards, though, and would require a different kind of clean up.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:17 pm.
Oooh, that’s such a shame! You can fix most of those issues, but it won’t be cheap. You just never know until you actually live a kitchen, do you?
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:39 pm.
I wish my kitchen could be set-uo more for the disabled. lower countertops,better access to the stove/refrigerator and easier access and more space for pots & pans and lower cabinets.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 12:44 pm.
So true. A kitchen for the disabled is a whole different animal. I imagine that will be a growing field.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:40 pm.
First and foremost my dream kitchen would have to come with an accomplished chef who looks like Richard Armitage. And I would want lots of windows. My kitchen has one small window over the sink. What is up with that? Let the prisoner look outside while they are chained to the sink washing dishes? I would want a bank of picture windows all the way across the dining area to flood the entire kitchen with light. Lose the dungeon look. And I would definitely want a broom closet large enough to hold brooms, mops and the vacuum cleaner. With shelves for cleaning products. I would love to have the pantry we had in the house we lived in in England. It was HUGE! I remember being amazed as a child at an entire room just to store food.
And I would want an entire wall of china cabinets to store my three sets of china (don’t ask!) and my crystal and my collection of English bone china tea cups.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:01 pm.
I wish I’d put in windows between the upper cabinets and the counter. All that light! I keep wondering how hard it would be to retrofit that. It would probably cost a fortune.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:41 pm.
I would LOVE to have my dream kitchen. I actually like looking at all of previous HGTV Dream Homes to get ideas for when I when the lotto and I get to make my kitchen the way I want.
My current kitchen is technically an alley style kitchen, however, it’s open to other living areas, so it feels bigger than it actually is. There are just shamefully small cabinets and counters. 
First, I would have granite counter tops. I usually like a darker chocolate color granite with some gold and/or green flecks. I would like walnut stained cabinets, and LOTS of cabinet and counter space. That ALWAYS seems to be lacking in kitchens, and I can’t understand why that is. I want it to be open to other living areas and have a lot of natural light. I would like double ovens, for sure, and preferably not LOW ones. Ones along a wall so I don’t have to bend over constantly to put in and take out. I also want the 8 burner gas stove with a grill in between them, and a chrome pot-filler for filling pans with water and not having to carry them across the kitchen. I absolutely LOVE to cook, and that stove would be a dream! I would also like laminate wood flooring because it’s easier than hardwood.
My two favorite kitchens in all of their Dream Homes are the one in 2007 in Colorado–beautiful cabinetry and appliances–the only thing I didn’t like is the countertops. I would change that pronto! I also love the 2005 one in Tyler, TX. Gorgeous limestone and wood accents, although again the countertops are a bit on the lighter side for me.
I’m a HGTV nut, though….love almost all of those shows!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:05 pm.
Oh, yes, no low ovens!! Murder on the back. I like ovens to be at my eye level.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:42 pm.
I desperately want a broom closet. I don’t have one, and my vacuum is in the coat closet and it is always in the way of the shoes or coat that I want to get to. So frustrating!
I also want more counter and cabinet space. I really like having a lot of prep and storage space! And none of those silly dangly light fixtures, ugh!
Other than that, I like the kitchen I have now. I have a great gas oven/range, a big refridgerator with a built in ice-maker/water dispenser, a garbage disposal and a dishwasher. I’d change some colors if I could, but overall it’s very nice.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 1:45 pm.
The thing about a broom closet is that they don’t take much room. I can’t figure out why they went out of style. They’re so handy!
I remember looking at a new condo about 25 years ago and it had the smallest broom closet I’ve ever seen. It would, literally, fit one, smallish broom. A broom and a mop? The door wouldn’t have closed. Forget putting a vacuum cleaner in there. The most ridiculous waste of space I ever saw.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:37 pm.
Wow. That has to be one of the silliest things I’ve heard recently!
Posted on February 25, 2012 at 6:28 pm.
You’ve hit on so many things that I want in my kitchen. Double oven – yes; regular gas stovetop – yes (my bil and sil have a commercial grade stove, which is kind of a joke since they don’t really cook beyond basics. What comes out of their kitchen isn’t all that either.), a broom closet – yes!! and I’d like the deep freeze in the kitchen, too. Easy access to food makes sense.
Add an “appliance garage” for easy access and an outlet because I don’t want to have to drag an appliance across the kitchen for an outlet, bread drawer (grew up with one, and we never had stale bread.), and a spice drawer. Oh, and I’d have a marmoleum floor – it’s green, but it’s, also, better on the feet than tile.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:15 pm.
Ah, yes, the missing bread drawer. What ever happened to those? And I also miss the pull-out cutting board. So handy!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:39 pm.
Yes! The pull-out cutting board – I’d like one of those, too. I think they aren’t around anymore because everyone’s so paranoid about getting food poisoning from cross contamination.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:02 pm.
New dishwasher, flooring, counters and light fixtures. I would be one happy cook.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:40 pm.
That’s all it takes!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 6:24 pm.
The architect who designed my neighborhood needs remedial lessons: 3 drawers total in the kitchen, no broom closet anywhere. Bought it for the potential.
Good News: the kitchen was open enough to add a broom closet, bigger fridge, big freezer (with the ice maker & bottle holders for vodka & gin), under counter wine fridge, stainless steel work table/island/eating area with stool stored underneath and pendant lights on a dimmer for bright work light or softer eating light, reading chair, cook book shelves.
Best kitchen things ever: Convection oven/microwave combo (like at a truck stop), duel fuel range with the lower drawer moved up & turned into a toaster-broiler-warmer oven. So in the standard space I have 3 electric ovens, 5 gas burners. Under cabinet lights and reflective glass tile so I can always see what I’m chopping-doing.
This summer the goal it to try and grow herb in/out the west facing windows. Ikea pots full of herbs and I’ll be Set! By then I’ll have the blog active again and be sharing tips and recipes (between reading books!)
Shudder to think what remodeling mischief I’d get into if I had TV and watched HGTV…
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 2:41 pm.
That’s a big kitchen! But I shudder to think what all thst upgrading cost you. Kitchens are so expensive.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 6:25 pm.
It cost very little! And is just under 300sqft (one thing the architect did get right) Between the local restaurant supply store and the internet everything listed cost less than the cost of putting a traditional cabinet & counter island.
example: a 2′square stainless steel table at Williams Sonoma costs 7x than the 8′ long prep table from the supply store.
Posted on February 25, 2012 at 11:20 am.
I don’t really cook, but Mr. G has a nice kitchen. The one thing we would do over if we could, we’d add a second oven for when he cooks Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner. And whatever happened to broom closets?
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 3:02 pm.
It’s a shame and a travesty, the missing broom closet.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 6:26 pm.
Except for the broom closet, your ideal kitchen sounds a lot like my actual kitchen. Double ovens, nice gas burners, etc. My sisters and mom love my kitchen, and make fun of me because my most frequently-used appliance is the microwave. I could use a larger one of those. *g*
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 3:45 pm.
Is there any way to squeeze in a broom closet? I promise you, it will be your favorite kitchen “item” once you have one.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 6:27 pm.
Have you seen The Pioneer Woman’s lodge kitchen? sigh. it. is perfect!
kitchen envy!
I have a teeny kitchen compared to the caverness room that is the apt downstair’s kitchen. but she has mice, so I’ll stick with mine, thanks.
BUT -I have enough room to have my luxury small appliances and store them; counterspace to make my goodies; a brand new fridge courtesy of our landlord’s own fridge catching fire(how DOES that happen), so we all got new ones 2yrs ago; and a big window to wash dishes under.
As long as you have the ‘kitchen triangle’, you can handle any space. Learned that in Home Ec back when they still taught it. geez, I still use the recipes I learned too!
lol
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 4:43 pm.
I’m with you on all your suggestions, but most especially
on the stove top. When Hurricane Ike disabled practically
the entire city of Houston by taking down all electricity,
my then 40 y/o gas stove allowed me to keep my family fed.
We were without power (NO A/C!!)for thirteen whole days!
Another must for an ideal kitchen is pantry and cabinet
shelves that roll out so as to reach the back of the
shelves.
Pat Cochran
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 6:50 pm.
Dare I say a cook?
I like kitchens with room for company. A place for people to sit and chat with you while you cook.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:08 pm.
I’m also an HGTV fan, Claudia! As for my dream kitchen:
Eco-friendly floor: the kitchen is high-traffic, so it needs flooring that can handle it. I’m not sure if my preferred flooring (those tiles that looked like wood but are not) is eco-friendly, but I’m trying to not leave any “footprints” for the future.
Stove/Oven Combo: I know that the oven is more convenient at eye level, but I prefer the stove and oven at one place. I may not be a chef, but my mom and aunt are, so for me, a good quality stove and oven are essential. Though for cleaning’s sake, I think I would like the stove and oven to be easy-to-clean.
Full-sized Fridge & Freezer: I prefer having a freezer and fridge next to each other, but full sized. Also, for cleaning’s sake, easy to clean, so maybe covered with something. Oh, and the fridge MUST have that water dispenser.
Lots of Spaces for Organization: cupboards aplenty, for everything. A walk-in pantry is included in this necessity. This includes that separate broom closet; wouldn’t want food and my cleaning stuff to be together.
Microwave: it explains for itself.
Appliance Closet: a place where all the appliances that are not needed daily are hidden away.
TV: I’ve gotten used to having one in the kitchen.
Dishwasher: I can wash dishes, but for a family gathering, I prefer having one for convenience’s sake. I think those double dishwashers are a good idea.
Lighting: good lighting is essential for a good kitchen. Natural, too, which means windows.
Island: I want an island so that one can prepare the food and still talk to others. That means chairs and cupboards are underneath.
All appliances are energy-efficient and the whole kitchen is as eco-friendly as it can be.
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:22 pm.
I have never had a TV in my kitchen and I’ve always thought it would be fun. Maybe someday!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:53 pm.
Oh, and all the suggestions given by others are also great ideas.
Ah, my dream kitchen…
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 7:23 pm.
“What do you need for a kitchen to be great?”
The presence of my husband, in a state of undress, making me something chocolate.
Too easy…..
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:12 pm.
My dream kitchen has so many needs: I am short – so I need the counters at my height, same with getting shelves down to my height — I love shelves that have slides in for lids, pots, baking sheets, etc would be necessary….a double sink that is deep would be wonderful especially because I do canning — double oven that is out of the path would be a big help — definitely agree about only needing a 4 burner on top – hate cleaning up but don’t like the smooth top stoves — love a flooring that is not like concrete – I am in the kitchen and love a floor that is comfortable to stand on and easy to clean — would love to have an electrical island – that all the appliances would be on and keep them off the counter….I would have a space to put the cat bowls and water that are out of the way too!! Have 3 cats!!! And the lighting would be above the stove, above the sink and under the counter. Another thing that would be important would to have an area next to my refrigerator that would have a counter to put everything on it as well as a counter next to the double oven… I hate carrying a lot of baking pans or heavy things that would be in the oven or in the fridge….The window would have a mini greenhouse type of counter so could grow herbs on it…next to the kitchen area would be a small eating area that would be a little more than a breakfast bar –
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 8:45 pm.
A stove with 6 burners, double ovens with a warmer, and a built in grill. **sigh**
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:40 pm.
I wouldn’t even know how to begin to clean a built in grill!
Posted on February 24, 2012 at 11:52 pm.
For a kitchen to be great I need a cook in it. I cook because I have to, so kitchen’s don’t excite me at all. I need it functional with lots of storage.
Posted on February 25, 2012 at 4:28 am.
Ooh.. I love the farm style kitchen in the picture. My dream kitchen would have two very large wall ovens, a commercial stove, 2 dishwashers, lots of counter space, a huge pantry so I can keep all of my kitchen gadgets, a very large commercial refrigerator and freezer and room for lots of people. I love to cook and my husband and I are very casual people. I would love to have a lot of room for all of us to relax and hang out while I’m cooking.
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Posted on March 28, 2012 at 2:20 pm.